I don't remember what was said in this podcast, except that Gary Anthony Williams is so funny he makes me act drunk! Oh, and Elliot Blake is such a master-mixologist, he also may have contributed.:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/daydrinking-with-gary-elliot/id1445764261?mt=2&fbclid=IwAR3LqcsZSl48IyoPPFGkbWUH7zKViCv0ZqjW63nr-XRxj_UGUSnBbIrPBSI